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Post by Cyggy on Mar 5, 2022 1:00:15 GMT
Please rate and discuss this story here.....
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 7, 2022 16:23:26 GMT
I wish that the plot was less of a confused mess than it it. But it is - sadly - a right mess.
When poor Colin couldn't get a straight answer of whether his Doctor was really mentally affected by the helmet and gone bad - or if the on-screen events were faked via the matrix - from either Phillip Martin or Eric Saward, then that's really sloppy.
Peri's death I have mixed feelings about too. A powerful moment, but what a horrible end for the character. Rather than retconning this death like they did I think they just shouldn't have done it in the first place probably.
I like the alien environment and the weird world that this story conjures up - starting with that lovely pink sky etc. But there's not much else I like about it.
5 out of 10.
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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 13, 2022 14:44:53 GMT
What a mess - utter crap!
1/10
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Post by GC on Jun 29, 2022 15:27:07 GMT
I thought it was a thoroughly depressing watch. Garbage.
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Post by GC on Jun 29, 2022 15:30:58 GMT
Doctor Who - Mindwarp - Studio Recording with Sweary Brian Blessed
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Post by Future-Diver on Jun 29, 2022 16:03:23 GMT
Certainly not the best part of The Trial Of A Timelord Season but not irredeemably bad either. Yes, it's very silly, confusing and mostly boring but anything featuring Brian Blessed is surely worth a watch. Also, it's cool to see the return of Sil and I kind of like that '50s B Movie-style brain transplant plot.
6/10
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Post by sadako on Jun 30, 2022 10:56:15 GMT
I give it a 5...
A halfway house if you like.
Probably one of the better productions of the 1980's era (and Brian Blessed makes this occasionally fun), but on the other hand probably the nastiest and cruellest story of this mean-spirited era.
I could live with a story in which Peri dies, and I could live with a story in which the Doctor goes evil and the companion can't trust him anymore.
But not both at once.
Frankly I'm surprised the show survived this.
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Post by sadako on Jun 30, 2022 10:58:46 GMT
Peri's death I have mixed feelings about too. A powerful moment, but what a horrible end for the character. Rather than retconning this death like they did I think they just shouldn't have done it in the first place probably. I think if they were going to retcon and undo Peri's fate later, they should've done it properly. The Master should've sent *her* as witness in The Ultimate Foe. She arrives in the courtroom, the doctor is surprised and joyed to see her alive, she takes her place by his side without fear, making clear nothing of the horrible scenes we saw in Mindwarp really happened, and the Matrix really was tampered.
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Post by Cyggy on Jul 6, 2022 13:31:43 GMT
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Post by iank on Aug 25, 2022 23:52:16 GMT
Possibly the single worst story of classic Who. Embarrassing.
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Post by GC on Apr 26, 2024 16:11:04 GMT
Something I only found out today - supposedly #AlienDay - an Alien Chestburster thing makes an appearance in this story, don't ask me where, I've only seen this story a couple of times in my life and that's more than enough...
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Post by profh0011 on Apr 26, 2024 16:41:15 GMT
Peri's death I have mixed feelings about too. A powerful moment, but what a horrible end for the character. Rather than retconning this death like they did I think they just shouldn't have done it in the first place probably. I think if they were going to retcon and undo Peri's fate later, they should've done it properly. The Master should've sent *her* as witness in The Ultimate Foe. She arrives in the courtroom, the doctor is surprised and joyed to see her alive, she takes her place by his side without fear, making clear nothing of the horrible scenes we saw in Mindwarp really happened, and the Matrix really was tampered. BRILLIANT, Thomas!!!!! BEST suggestion I've heard anyone make regarding this awful wretched unwatchable hateful piece of crap I've ever read.
You know, in one of my own stories, completely unrelated to WHO, I once "cast" Tom Baker, Patrick Toughton, Colin Baker & Nicola Bryant as characters. Come to think of it, Anthony Ainley was also in there... as one of the heroes. Near the climax of the story, I put Nicola thru sheer hell-- kidnapped by other-dimensional demons, stripped, tied up, leered at, and one of them suggested they'd keep her alive for "breeding stock". But she was RESCUED by the end, dammit!
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Post by dsjr on Aug 30, 2024 16:34:57 GMT
I'd love to see Brian Blessed, cast to act totally against type - you know, quietly softly spoken and with extreme gentleness. I'm certain he could do it and may be a teddy bear in real life, but 'they' kept casting him to be VERY LOUD and always larger than life...
Only the third or fourth time I've ever watched 'Trial' and it's as incomprehensible to me now as it was then. What a way to try to save the show...
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Post by dsjr on Sept 1, 2024 12:15:32 GMT
Nicola may well have liked the initial way she was killed off, but I didn't then and still don't now. She and Colin definitely deserved another season together with the friendlier attitude the characters had by then.
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Something coming across in all the DVD commentaries done in the mid to late noughties, is how the classic series cast seem to be revelling in the special effects and less strict soap opera-esque 'relationship' dialogues and general sensibilities and so on of NuWho! twenty years on, I wonder if these surviving cast members still feel the same? I feel that the classic series did so well even today, because the cast and crew HAD to do it right under very tight time schedules, for it to be effective. Too much green screen today methinks, so little to nothing for the current lot to act against! Earlier stories (Davison's especially), there was huge criticism of the tiny TARDIS console room set, leaving no space to 'act' in. Shame really, as the original Whitaker Dalek novelisation indicated a huge space with at least one doorway off it, the console only taking up a small part. Strange really, as the Disco console room Ncuti's lubered with/enjoying, just doesn't look right at all for some reason, a chap on Youtube having created some far more 'truthful to Timelord sensibilities' rooms imo!
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Post by dsjr on Sept 3, 2024 9:49:09 GMT
One more thing - Bonny really was excruciatingly awful at the time, squeaky and only seemingly employed for her fitness (climbing ladders effortlessly) and her SCREAMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
I hated her - until her performance in the Audio 'The Juggernauts,' where she showed how seriously good she could be in that role. I apologise to Ms Langford for judging her so harshly at the time, but more of the commentary seems to indicate that higher-ups at the BBC were leaning on the show somewhat and politics in the production office (eric Sayward leaving abruptly I believe?) got in the way as well (didn't JN-T want to leave but was prevented from doing so?)
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