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Post by Black Orchid on Jun 18, 2022 12:55:01 GMT
Publicity photograph
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Post by Cyggy on Jul 8, 2022 11:50:19 GMT
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Post by Cyggy on Aug 4, 2022 10:20:56 GMT
14. Doctor Who Locations Guide - The Evil of the Daleks
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Post by Black Orchid on Sept 1, 2022 14:26:28 GMT
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Post by Bowties on Sept 1, 2022 14:58:17 GMT
Love the dizzy Daleks.
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Post by Black Orchid on Sept 25, 2022 14:49:42 GMT
"A publicity shot of Frazer Hines and Deborah Watling taken at Grim’s Dyke House on Monday 24th April 1967." Clayton Hickman twitter
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 20:25:32 GMT
From a 2021 rewatch of the Missing Episodes only.... Episode 1:(Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)So the Hartnell Doctor was not mistaken when he felt a strange prickling in the opening of THE WAR MACHINES, set on the same day as both FACELESS ONES and this tale. The Daleks were in fact nearby and hatching their craziest plot yet? The first John Smith reference - okay "J. Smith". So WHEEL wasn't the start. Patrick's Doctor is being very COLUMBO like so far, spotting clipboards that are clues, etc. I can't help but think that that looks like Patrick Troughton giving himself a lift in the taxi at 4:30. :? Is this an in-joke on the part of Loose Cannon; with the Doctor helping himself out - or is that really a different actor/person as the taxi driver? The music's nicely atmospheric. The plot is certainly a convoluted affair, with plenty of characters being thrown at us. WHEEL gets a lot of stick for the daft multi-layered Cybermen plan, but I am wondering from the outset if this plan is going to prove equally daft on the part of the Daleks, what with time travel, antiques, human factors, tests, cigarette match boxes, ripped in half photos of the Doctor and Jamie in a box. Will it all add up and amount to a sensible plot at the end of the day? Or are we overlooking a dodgily plotted tale simply coz it's the Daleks vs. Troughton? Just pondering aloud as we begin to look closer at this missing classic, but I do wonder why WHEEL gets stick and this doesn't? Nice that Jamie has his first encounter with (the sound of) a train. Good that the showmakers had not forgotten he was still learning new things, but they wisely just breeze over it and don't dwell on a laboured explanation. Does this mean that Katarina could have worked if they had applied themselves to developing her character properly? If I ever open a coffee bar, I will call it The Tricolor; nail some Sixites record album covers to it's walls, have specially made, overly priced matchbooks for people to take away - and hope that swarms of Troughton era fans will pop in and make me a fortune, allowing me to retire. Of course, whenever they put DALEKS in the title the show makers lost that element of audience surprise. But I guess the ratings might have been a bit less peaky if this had been called THE HUMAN FACTOR or something like that? "Doctor Galloway" eh? Am surprised that this alternative monicker for the Doctor has not been revisited - or had a 16 x box set adventures of someone of that name. This has been quite a busy episode, with plenty happening, but at no point has it felt rushed or too silly. Maybe a few too many characters(?), but a solid first episode - with a good ending too, that at last can be seen in context. Fingers crossed, this really could turn out to be an all-time classic, which would unfortunately make it's loss all the more bitter.
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 20:30:14 GMT
Episode 3: (Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)"You have travelled too much through time. You are more than human!" What a strange thing to say, and something we as fans tend to overlook? How can travelling through time make you more than human? And why was the Doctor acting as if he was human - containing "The Human Factor" - in the first place? All a bit baffling.... I do think that there are too many characters in this tale. And they seem to be there purely for padding purposes. It's clearly a classic, but I can't help thinking that it could maybe be trimmed down to say 5 episodes - I think 4 would be too short - simply by losing or merging some of the characters that keep popping out of the woodwork. There's that whole scene of Maxtible enjoying a strongman show by Kemel, while a Dalek goes all Norman Bates and watches proceedings from a peeepshow cupboard. Sheer and utter filth!!! Even if they didn't find the full episode, I wish they would find the clip of Jamie having his first showdown with the Doctor at 15 minutes in. I think that this saves the episode from being pure - not much happening - padding. The Doctor manipulating Jamie into mounting a one man rescue of Victoria - and then chuckling about it show, arguably, a darker side to this Doctor than the lovable hobo, a side that would not reappear until Sylvester? I love that the Loose Cannon team went back to the house and filmed that overhead shot from the same balcony, even keying the wallpaper from the telesnaps back in. But, on the whole, I think this is the weakest episode so far. P.S. I see you of course picked up on that "more than human" malarkey too, Yartek. And Loose Cannon's attention to detail. As for the threat to destroy the TARDIS, if one counts New Who as cannon, then they had learned to do so by the time of JOURNEY'S END, of course..... So the idea of them doing so was at least revisited. I wonder if it was a nod to the threat in EVIL, so long before?
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 20:32:44 GMT
Episode 4:
(Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)
I started to notice the design of wallpaper in the background of one of the recon telesnaps during the fight scene, which can't be a good sign. I also wondered how they are going to make the fight scene interesting in the upcoming animation.
Troughton nicely plays the rather confined scenes he is in as he cooperates to find the Human Factor.
Nice idea of the Loose Cannon team to return to the actual house where certain scenes were filmed and reshoot those scenes, although "Victoria" hiding her face is unavoidably obvious. Also that scene of a Dalek shouting up at the landing during it's prisoner count scene is a bit odd maybe. Saved the BBC carting the Dalek upstairs in the original version I guess.
Having a one sided conversational relationship between Jamie and Kemel is making for a dull time imo. And, with the "tests" now underway this is making for perhaps the weakest episode so far(?) and one that could be accused of being overly padded. If only one episode is destined to be returned, I hope it isn't this one
The Doctor talking to the Dalek scenes are starting to remind me of a similar set up in THE CELESTIAL TOYMAKER. The Doctor doing sod all and simply commenting on the action with his opponent while the companions are the ones having to actually deal with stuff.
I don't care about Terrell or Mollie either. To me they seem to be largely extraneous characters and could be removed without affecting the narrative too much? Same with the late, lamented Toby. I do think that perhaps THE EVIL OF THE DALEKS is a four episode tale that has been stretched far beyond it's length?
At least this episode confirms that Maxtible is completely insane, along the lines of Mavic Chen.
C.G.I. Jamie and Kemel are a computer generated force to be reckoned with. If you need them to climb a rope up to a bannister nothing can beat them.
A rather neat ending though, as their efforts lead them right to the Daleks.
So overall, not much to this episode, but I suppose it at least pushes the narrative along a bit. A fair few minutes - and characters - could be easily edited out though I reckon.
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 20:43:53 GMT
Episode 5:(Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)Blimey! The beginning of episode 5 before Jamie finally meets Victoria. Never has a man had such loyalty and devotion to a terrible painting before, risking life and limb as he has to get to her. The mysteries of Arthur Terrall are actually quite intriguing; never being seen to eat and "full of some sort of electricity". Am not sure if it will lead anywhere interesting but the scene is nicely played by both Troughton and the other actor. Ooh - and it just gave us that lovely quote from the second Doctor: "Doctor, no doubt you are a keen student of human nature, but some things are best left alone." "No, Mister Terrall, I am not a student of human nature. I am a professor of a far wider academy of which human nature is merely a part. All forms of life interest me." I just simply cannot imagine any of the New Who Doctors, for all their pompous speechifying coming out with a line that sings like that, which is a black mark imo against all the post 2005 writers. Quite simply Classic had the best, most intelligent writers. And it's tucked away near the beginning of this episode. Nice to finally place it. And a shame it is lost as it's perfect for clip show documentaries. I do think that they should have made that telesnap of a hypnotised Mollie into the official BBC testcard..... Maybe Mollie would have made a more interesting companion than Victoria? Sadly it does not seem we will get much chance to find out. Mollie DawsonWondering what happened to the actress. Jo Rowbottom..... IMDB....I find that she was in lots and lots of things, including a sitcom called ROMANY JONES, about life on a caravan site..... Romany JonesNice scene between Waterfield and the Doctor as the former realises the stakes - the entire future of humanity - and suffers a crisis of conscience. The episode seems to lose ground a bit now, with another padding swordfight between Jamie and Terrall. Oh, they are dumping Terrall and Ruth from the narrative. Makes me wonder if we ever needed them in the story at al? Another great moment that would enrich clip show documentaries, with Jamie making a stand against the Doctor's ethics as Steven did in THE MASSACRE. Nice ending too, with the Daleks playing trains. Overall this was a good episode of this story with some moments it would be lovely to recover. NB: Jumping back to episode 5 for a moment, this book..... Doctor Who: Episode by Episode Volume 2 - Patrick Troughton .... claims that at 20:50, when a Dalek is watching Kemel, we hear a bit of LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMOND....but to me it's only two notes and hardly worth mentioning, but thought I would mention it anyway. The author of the above book concludes that the dates don't add up though and it is very unlikely that Dudley had heard the song...... But it also somehow led to TARDIS ERUDITORUM (perhaps coincidentally) writing an essay about the Dalek intrusion of psychedelia into Victorian London..... Pop Between Realities, Home in Time for Tea 6 (The Summer of Love)
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 20:47:34 GMT
Episode 6:
(Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)
This is the first episode aired after I was born, so I like to think I was home by that point and only stopped screaming the house down for 25 minutes when this was on in the background. Then resumed as soon as the end credits finished. :lol:
Nice start with the Doctor and the Daleks playing trains. I can almost see Troughton's glee as he tells them to gather round.
The Stupid-Fan part of my mind had an unforgivable moment just now where I thought "wouldn't it be cool if the Omega Dalek turned out to be the Omega", then decided to leave such ridiculousness to Big Finish and the new show.
Nice showdown by an agitated Waterfield and a silkily greedy, cunning Maxtible.
I did laugh at the line "You cannot destroy my house!" As if that honestly going to make a Dalek think twice or that preserving architecture figures in their plans. :lol:
The way Maxtible then starts calling out for the Doctor reminded me of Turlough doing the exact same thing when he was in Captain Wrack's airlock in ENLIGHTENMENT. These people really should realise from the start that the Doctor's way is best, but no, they have to learn it the hard way.
Am loving the c.g.i. recreated Dalek scenes as they swan about Maxtible's laboratory. Truly a labour of love.
I honestly didn't know if the Doctor was going to try to dismantle the house-destroying bomb, or even if he could have. He really needed Romana II with him at that point, so long as she had a screwdriver.
I notice that Maxtible says to Victoria that they have travelled through space. He does not mention time. Does this mean that "the Final End" of the Daleks took place in Victorian times? Or does Maxtible not realise that they might have travelled through time too?
Kemel's absolute silence is a strange decision and calls on the over-use of those rolling captions.
I do wonder if this is meant to be not only the same city as in THE DALEKS?
In fact, is the Doctor now taking the same route through the mountain that our heroes did in the Hartnell tale? I hope Waterfield can leap across chasms without a rope!
Maxtible is still banging on about his silly - albeit large - house. He learns a painful lesson when a Dalek pushes him and he staggers, which causes great agony to Victorian gentlemen, for some reason.
I like how Maxtible is determined to keep his hat on, no matter what. Maybe it is a comfort blanket kind of thing? :?
Crafty Dalek, pretending to be Omega. There is an element of guile and cunning to the Whittaker Daleks. These ones truly need no Davros to do their thinking and planning for them. They are quite capable of outwitting their victims - or at least trying to.
I thought Maxtible was being Dalek-ised in that screaming scene and wondered how Victoria could escape the same fate, but it was just their screams being recorded. It shows how unfamiliar I am with many of the beats of this tale.
The Dalek Emperor is an impressive creation from what we can see of it - and the scene of them entering it's lair reminds me of Ripley entering the Queen's nest in ALIENS. It must have been an impressive clifffhanger at the time. The voice is perfect too imo. And yes, a fan part of me wonders if Davros - or at least his brain - is buried somewhere in that metallic behemoth? Mind you, that would contradict what I just said about Whittaker's Daleks not needing him. :lol:
If this episode were found it would be both wonderful and frustrating. Wonderful for finally seeing the Emperor Dalek in the cliffhanger, but frustrating, because we would know we could not then go on to episode 7 and see more great stuff in the conclusion of this tale.
A good episode and one that whets the appetite for the finale.
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 21:07:48 GMT
Episode 7: (Using Loose Cannon Recon on Dailymotion)
Nice start to the episode with the booming Emperor telling the Doctor that he must obey. This gathering of our heroes in the Daleks' lair reminds me of the similar scene where the Tennant Doctor is trapped in Davros' lair with his friends around him in one form or another. The Troughton version is many times cheaper, but somehow done much better imo, if that makes any sense? I think the scale of the Tennant gathering was overblown in comparison. I believe that the overhead shot of the Daleks at 1:05 is actually a telesnap brought cleverly back to life. Technology, eh!! Jamie's disgust at Maxtible is well played. "Five lives against a whole planet" scene between Victoria and the Doctor is another documentary-clip-friendly moment lost to the ages. I think that they have got the Emperor Dalek's voice just right. Booming - and sounding just a little bit crazy? "Who questioned a Dalek command?!?" - said as if it's the most outrageous crime ever committed. Perfectly voiced. Turning humans into Daleks puts the onus on the actor in question. We have lost Maxtible's movement and body language as the Dalek and so are left with just the voice. Have to say I think Troughton plays the better Dalek, with the Maxtible actor sounding more like a hypnotised person imo. Troughton's Dalek has that sharp edge that the other actor is lacking. As for body movement, I like to think they were both gliding like Georgian State Dancers, but imagine it was more a determined shuffling on both their parts. Nice trust dilemma for the Doctor's friends, uncertain whether he really is a Dalek or not. Stupid Emperor Dalek, falling for the Doctor's cunning plan to run every Dalek through the archway. It's no wonder they have never quite succeeded in conquering the universe when they can be so quietly duped like this. "WH-YYYYYY?" That bossy Dalek had it coming to him really. I will shed no tears. Nice montage recreation of the explosive finale, but it makes me wonder how it actually looked on screen, rather than via super 8mm filmed from different angles to what was broadcast. It does feel that the death of Kemel is completely gratuitous and unfair after all he has been through, Added to that, Maxtible's relentless "Kill, kill, kill, kill...." are completly un-Dalek-like and unconvincing. Not fair to Kemel that he departs the story in this lame way imo. Why couldn't Whittaker just let him survive? A spectacular finale then, and without question the episode I would have to choose as the one I want most back, but there is one huge fly in the ointment and I think it's Marius Goring and his Dalek shenanigans. I just don't think he makes a very good Dalek, which is a pity as his portrayal of one is an important part of this episode. This is just one flaw - along with the unfair and pointless death of Kemel - and I really like the rest of the episode. Certainly an episode worthy of finishing off a season of Classic Who. Just a mention in passing of our very own Conga Line Monkey's snippet of animation for the ending of episode 6 - and please also check out the link below for more..... Conga Line Monkey's Missing Episode Clips & Other Animations
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 23, 2023 21:12:30 GMT
Just another passing mention for Troughton's suggestion - during an interview with DWM (Issue 102 - July 1985) - that he could remake THE EVIL OF THE DALEKS...... This was never gonna happen, of course, but it gets an honorary mention as it came straight from Patrick himself, shortly after THE TWO DOCTORS.....
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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 29, 2023 16:04:44 GMT
Victoria's room from episode 2 Colourised by Clayton Hickman
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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 30, 2023 12:22:28 GMT
"Set photo of the Lime Grove version of the Emperor’s chamber." Colourised by Clayton Hickman
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