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Post by Cyggy on Mar 5, 2022 2:58:39 GMT
Please rate and discuss this story here.....
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Post by Cyggy on Mar 6, 2022 22:57:14 GMT
Have to admit, I think this is a good story. I like the pre-credits prologue of the spaceship closing in on Earth with all the historical speeches.
Not so sure about "Doctor Who" being announced on the telly in one scene though.
I like the idea of Quatermass being alive and kicking in the Whoniverse, but worry that they will reveal him to be a pre-Hartnell Doctor in New Who at some point. I mean - all those face changes he went through!
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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 13, 2022 14:47:58 GMT
DAVROS: The Daleks shall become Lords of Time! We shall become all
DOCTOR: Powerful. Crush the lesser races. Conquer the galaxy. Unimaginable power. Unlimited rice pudding, et cetera, et cetera.
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A very good first episode and a strong supporting cast - the story that got me watching Doctor Who again.
It's a shame Davros was included in the script as he was not really required and the Unlimited Rice Pudding speech is just embarrassing.
But all in all a strong return to form after a couple of dreadful seasons.
8.5/10
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Post by rapscallion on Mar 14, 2022 6:17:07 GMT
Not a bad story, but not that great either. I don't really get the overblown fan love for this one.
I mean, it's twice landed within the top 10 in the Doctor Who Magazine surveys in 2009 and 2014, meaning it's apparently the 2nd most popular classic Dalek story ever after Genesis. Utter claptrap. Better than Day?! Or Troughton's two?! Or Revelation?! Or Dalek Invasion Of Earth?! Come off it!
All the cast are great in Remembrance, and thankfully it shows the start of a more serious 7th Doctor. There is much to enjoy in it, but it's largely undermined by the return of Davros in Part 4, for some reason hiding in a Dalek casing and posing as the Emperor. Another pointless reveal (see Time Flight) that totally undermines the character. I love Davros, he's among the very best villains that the show ever had, perhaps the greatest, but he had become overused, and should never have been included in this story.
And I thoroughly agree with Channing. The unlimited rice pudding speech is actually excruciating and should have been wiped.
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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 15, 2022 12:39:32 GMT
How Remembrance of the Daleks was Fixed in the Edit
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Post by rapscallion on Mar 21, 2022 6:21:49 GMT
Gonna need to paraphrase here, but on the Season 24 Blu-ray boxset, Bonnie Langford said in her interview that she left the series because she felt she should, and that it was anticipated that she would.
Now, I love Bonnie Langford but I think that Season 24 works to her disadvantage because of the stories that she was involved in. Delta And The Bannermen, for instance, with its focus on the music of the 1950s and holiday camps with a sci-fi twist could have been written with her in mind.
So it just got me thinking, I wonder if the character of Mel (which personally I think has been far better portrayed via Big Finish away from Season 24) would have been better remembered if Bonnie HAD stayed on for Season 25 and been involved in the anniversary year.
I'm no huge fan of Remembrance, but it is definitely darker and grittier than anything presented in Season 24, so I wonder if this would have worked to Mel's advantage.
I understand that this is all "well, it didn't happen that way, so whatever", but her interview got me thinking about how her staying might have panned out.
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Post by GC on Mar 21, 2022 23:48:51 GMT
Think this is McCoy's best story. Loved all that renegade Daleks vs Imperial Daleks stuff, the Emperor Dalek turning out to be Davros. The sixties setting, Coal Hill School/Totter's Lane nice call backs to Who's beginnings. That creepy school girl. McCoy was finally the Doctor for me here. Not so sure about Ace. Didn't like the attacking a Dalek with a baseball bat scene. Not sure about the Doctor basically talking the supreme Dalek into self destructing either. Anyway it had a decent supporting cast, was very well shot with (wobbly Daleks aside) some very good special effects.
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Post by johnnybear on Mar 26, 2022 7:36:33 GMT
Definitely McCoy's best story and the Daleks fighting Daleks was great! 1963, was there ever a better year? JB
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Post by Black Orchid on Apr 29, 2022 13:19:30 GMT
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Post by Cyggy on May 28, 2022 13:05:01 GMT
Was the Hartnell Doctor merely pretending to have never heard of the Daleks in their first aired story? It seems clear here that he had already laid a trap for them?
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Post by sadako on May 30, 2022 3:15:05 GMT
I always (perhaps naively) got the impression the First Doctor left the Hand of Omega on Earth just to hide it and prevent it falling into any wrong hands (maybe even not wanting it to be abused by his own people).
I sense that the baiting the trap for the Daleks idea came later, and that it was actually that brief moment when the Doctor sneaks into Ratcliffe's den and whispers to the Hand "you know what you've got to do, don't you?" where he gave it the telepathic instructions to nuke Skaro, not before.
That's my theory, anyway.
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Post by sadako on May 30, 2022 3:21:21 GMT
Anyhow, Christmas 1993 I got this with the Dalek tin set under the tree. Even though the plot had been spoilt for me by that year's DWM archive, I was still a happy bunny, watching all this Dalek action. And even Keff McCulloch's usually derided scores seemed to fit this one like a glove.
It was incredibly satisfying and still ranks for me as one of my favourite Christmases in childhood.
I did overplay it to death in the years ahead, but sometimes I return to it and find it as fresh and sharp as ever. Definitely one of the real best hits of the McCoy era.
Infact, I might just be in the mood to dig it out for a watch again.
Incidentally I've no issue with the Doctor nuking Skaro. Especially as the Time Lords had forewarned him that if not stopped, the Daleks might in the distant future, succeed in destroying all life in the universe. And it seemed a foregone conclusion by Destiny of the Daleks that the Thals had all left.
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Post by Cyggy on Jun 11, 2022 1:04:54 GMT
Doctor Who: Remembrance of the Daleks Q&A
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Post by Cyggy on Jun 22, 2022 15:41:26 GMT
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Post by Cyggy on Jun 22, 2022 18:47:46 GMT
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