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Post by Black Orchid on Mar 9, 2023 16:38:45 GMT
Retro film poster - by Oliver Arkinstall-Jones (twitter)
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Post by dsjr on Feb 9, 2024 17:47:33 GMT
Sure it's a bit ott as this show seemed to be going at this time, but I enjoyed this one I have to say. The show has definitely changed during this first half of Tom's tenure and I suppose this was the reaction to the anti-violence stance of Mary Whitehouse and her followers, not realising that the show had actually grown up with it's original audience. I suspect it's always been a difficult tightrope, but it looks as if we still have some superb actors in support and to me, it shows in the professionalism of the production and they make it look so easy when I suspect it's anything but... P.S. Doesn't the Doctor have a coat of many trans-dimensional pockets (or summat), able to 'magic up' barrister wigs and papers 'just like that?' i didn't mind that as it's kind of expected from Tom and Patrick before him (and maybe the others if nobody was looking I'm getting to forgive Tom of almost anything really (fifty years on!) as I believe he really cares about the show to this day and with age, my ASD side is more understanding of his spontaneity and general quirkiness (Bless you Tom)
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Post by profh0011 on Feb 9, 2024 19:11:49 GMT
I always picture myself in the TARDIS at the start of the story when Romana comes out in her outfit, complimenting her, but then adding...
"If I may, one suggestion?" "What's that?" "Boots." "Boots?" "Wet, marshy ground. Definitely-- BOOTS." "Oh."
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Post by dsjr on Feb 9, 2024 23:21:09 GMT
P.S. Just found and watched 'Children Of The Stones' and enjoyed that too (I was perhaps too old and working by then, but I now have to find Timeslip again, as I got rid of the VHS sets before re-watching them)...
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Post by heccy on Feb 10, 2024 0:20:59 GMT
There are stories that encapsulate all the best about Classic Doctor Who...
Sadly, this isn't one of them...
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Post by Future-Diver on Feb 10, 2024 11:30:57 GMT
There are stories that encapsulate all the best about Classic Doctor Who... Sadly, this isn't one of them... I think 'The Stones Of Blood' contains all that is good in Doctor Who - a Gothic/Folk Horror tale with a Sci Fi twist, Douglas Adams-style madcap humour and two smashing lead actors in the form of Tom Baker and Mary Tamm. I'm currently re-watching this serial for the umpteenth time and absolutely loving it - I'm always delighted by the wonderful scenes featuring Tom Baker and Beatrix Lehmann (Professor Emelia Rumford)- two great British eccentrics together. (though I agree with profh0011 about the choice of Romana's footwear...). Emilia: " I meant a silicon based lifeform is unknown, unheard of, impossible". Doctor: " Maybe it doesn't realise that".
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Post by heccy on Feb 10, 2024 13:31:08 GMT
There are stories that encapsulate all the best about Classic Doctor Who... Sadly, this isn't one of them... I think 'The Stones Of Blood' contains all that is good in Doctor Who - a Gothic/Folk Horror tale with a Sci Fi twist, Douglas Adams-style madcap humour and two smashing lead actors in the form of Tom Baker and Mary Tamm. I'm currently re-watching this serial for the umpteenth time and absolutely loving it - I'm always delighted by the wonderful scenes featuring Tom Baker and Beatrix Lehmann (Professor Emelia Rumford)- two great British eccentrics together. (though I agree with profh0011 about the choice of Romana's footwear...). Emilia: " I meant a silicon based lifeform is unknown, unheard of, impossible". Doctor: " Maybe it doesn't realise that".Have to disagree with you on this Future. For me, something like Spearhead From Space, Web of Fear, Genesis of The Daleks, some up the best of Classic Who. It's Doctor Who, not the Tom Baker has fun show.
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Post by Future-Diver on Feb 11, 2024 0:05:22 GMT
I think 'The Stones Of Blood' contains all that is good in Doctor Who - a Gothic/Folk Horror tale with a Sci Fi twist, Douglas Adams-style madcap humour and two smashing lead actors in the form of Tom Baker and Mary Tamm. I'm currently re-watching this serial for the umpteenth time and absolutely loving it - I'm always delighted by the wonderful scenes featuring Tom Baker and Beatrix Lehmann (Professor Emelia Rumford)- two great British eccentrics together. (though I agree with profh0011 about the choice of Romana's footwear...). Emilia: " I meant a silicon based lifeform is unknown, unheard of, impossible". Doctor: " Maybe it doesn't realise that".Have to disagree with you on this Future. For me, something like Spearhead From Space, Web of Fear, Genesis of The Daleks, some up the best of Classic Who. It's Doctor Who, not the Tom Baker has fun show. Oh well, you don't like it and that's fair enough. As much as I adore the classic series, there are still some well-loved, highly regarded serials that simply leave me cold - so I understand.
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Post by profh0011 on Feb 11, 2024 4:05:21 GMT
Oh well, you don't like it and that's fair enough. As much as I adore the classic series, there are still some well-loved, highly regarded serials that simply leave me cold - so I understand. I keep being reminded... some years back, I decided to do a "Daleks" marathon (and generally, I DON'T like Daleks). I watched:
Destiny of the Daleks Ressurection of the Daleks Revelation of the Daleks Remembrance of the Daleks and INVASION EARTH 2150 A.D. (my favorite!)
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Post by Servo on Feb 11, 2024 7:42:15 GMT
I don’t mind this story, but agree it goes a bit off the rails once they get to the spaceship. The goth bits are great though.
I agree with Heccy, although I’ve always thought The Web of Fear is too much of a case of Why Did They Include Evans?
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Post by Future-Diver on Feb 11, 2024 8:59:25 GMT
I don’t mind this story, but agree it goes a bit off the rails once they get to the spaceship. The goth bits are great though. I agree with Heccy, although I’ve always thought The Web of Fear is too much of a case of Why Did They Include Evans? I enjoy both parts equally. If The Stones Of Blood had been four episodes of occult thrills - Druids, crows and ritual sacrifice - it would have been a perfectly fine (if slightly predictable), Hammer Horror style tale. But I like the fact that half way through, it veers off unexpectedly into the realm of space fantasy and comedy, reminding us that the show is Sci Fi, after all. Some fans may find this shift midway rather jarring, but I really like this change of pace and mash-up of genres/styles - it's something that only Doctor Who could do. The Web of Fear - this was the first Who serial I watched, but I now find it a bit overrated, and agree that Driver Evans, the comedy Welshman, is annoying.
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Post by Servo on Feb 11, 2024 10:21:40 GMT
I don’t mind this story, but agree it goes a bit off the rails once they get to the spaceship. The goth bits are great though. I agree with Heccy, although I’ve always thought The Web of Fear is too much of a case of Why Did They Include Evans? I enjoy both parts equally. If The Stones Of Blood had been four episodes of occult thrills - Druids, crows and ritual sacrifice - it would have been a perfectly fine (if slightly predictable), Hammer Horror style tale. But I like the fact that half way through, it veers off unexpectedly into the realm of space fantasy and comedy, reminding us that the show is Sci Fi, after all. Some fans may find this shift midway rather jarring, but I really like this change of pace and mash-up of genres/styles - it's something that only Doctor Who could do. The Web of Fear - this was the first Who serial I watched, but I now find it a bit overrated, and agree that Driver Evans, the comedy Welshman, is annoying. The last episode of Web is an absolute cracker though. Even Evans is bearable. Don’t get me wrong though I like Stones of Blood, I just don’t like the second part as much as the first. I rewatched the whole Key to Time season a couple of years ago when we still had the classic season on Britbox. This story was one of my favourites on initial watching, back in the 70’s, but it still holds up quite well I think.
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Post by Future-Diver on Feb 11, 2024 10:47:28 GMT
I enjoy both parts equally. If The Stones Of Blood had been four episodes of occult thrills - Druids, crows and ritual sacrifice - it would have been a perfectly fine (if slightly predictable), Hammer Horror style tale. But I like the fact that half way through, it veers off unexpectedly into the realm of space fantasy and comedy, reminding us that the show is Sci Fi, after all. Some fans may find this shift midway rather jarring, but I really like this change of pace and mash-up of genres/styles - it's something that only Doctor Who could do. The Web of Fear - this was the first Who serial I watched, but I now find it a bit overrated, and agree that Driver Evans, the comedy Welshman, is annoying. The last episode of Web is an absolute cracker though. Even Evans is bearable. Don’t get me wrong though I like Stones of Blood, I just don’t like the second part as much as the first. I rewatched the whole Key to Time season a couple of years ago when we still had the classic season on Britbox. This story was one of my favourites on initial watching, back in the 70’s, but it still holds up quite well I think. The strange thing about Web is that I should really like it (the creepy London Underground, that Quatermass And The Pit vibe, Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart, etc.) but somehow I don't. However saying that, I do really love the first episode (ironic, because for many years, this was the only episode that wasn't missing from the archives!). Maybe I'll give Web another try once I've made it through my Season 16 rewatch.
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Post by dsjr on Feb 11, 2024 13:50:48 GMT
On a 1960's 19" B&W TV, 'Web' was a thrilling watch and the sets very convincing on the whole. Maybe the joins show too much on an uber large widescreen telly of today (off a restored film print of the original long erased master tape)... I mean, look at the disastrous Dalek colourisation where, awful editing and added music aside, *every* mark and join in the sets shows which are toned right down in the current telecine B&W releases.
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Post by Future-Diver on Feb 12, 2024 6:50:20 GMT
On a 1960's 19" B&W TV, 'Web' was a thrilling watch and the sets very convincing on the whole. Maybe the joins show too much on an uber large widescreen telly of today (off a restored film print of the original long erased master tape)... I mean, look at the disastrous Dalek colourisation where, awful editing and added music aside, *every* mark and join in the sets shows which are toned right down in the current telecine B&W releases. On a 1960's 19" B&W TV
Yes, I distinctly remember watching Web at my Aunty's house on original transmission in 1968. I was so enthralled, but also petrified at the same time, that I dare not go the toilet (located outside, back in those days).
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