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Post by Cyggy on Apr 8, 2022 16:15:42 GMT
Please discuss Tegan - and Janet Fielding - here.....
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Post by Cyggy on Apr 17, 2022 21:07:11 GMT
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Post by rapscallion on Apr 19, 2022 17:52:09 GMT
My favourite companion, and I love Janet Fielding.
I remember the 7year old me being really miffed that she had been left behind at Heathrow at the end of Time Flight.
I like the sisterly bond that she shares with Nyssa, and I enjoy how ballsy she can be. I love her antagonistic relationship with the 5th Doctor. Despite his look of disdain at her return at the end of Arc Of Infinity they clearly cared about each other, and certainly by the end of Resurrection Of The Daleks they had grown closer to the point he was affected by her going.
I guess that the quite testy relationship that Tegan and the 5th Doctor had with each other at the early part of their travelling together was felt to be quite an interesting and different dynamic, which was why the 6th Doctor and Peri became the quarrelsome duo of Season 22. A step too far really.
I wonder how Tegan would have left the series had the Dalek story gone ahead as planned at the end of Season 20. Would the story structure of Season 21 have changed and The Awakening maybe have been her final story, staying on Earth with her uncle at the end?
I was thrilled to see the clip of her with Ace for the final Jodie Whittaker story later in the year. Like Cyggy, I'm really hoping that this doesn't ruin or rewrite her character. But I think Janet Fielding would have plenty to say to Chibnall and the director if it did.
And if the current rumours that just won't dissipate about David Tennant returning are actually true, maybe a no-nonsense, straight-talking former air hostess might be on hand to help him through that next regeneration and maybe even accompany him on a few more trips into time and space.....đ
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Post by Cyggy on May 10, 2022 12:16:19 GMT
Janet on the new Doctor.....
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Post by GC on Jun 8, 2022 0:42:36 GMT
No Colin Baker but still a pretty good interview with Janet & Co.
Doctor Who LBC 'special' Interview (possible lost media found?)
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Post by Cyggy on Jun 13, 2022 15:57:44 GMT
Doctor Who - Janet Fielding Interview at Wholanta 2019
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Post by sadako on Jun 16, 2022 10:49:50 GMT
First story I saw her in was The Five Doctors, and for some years it was the only one of hers I'd seen. She seemed likable enough but definitely not as interesting or intriguing as the other returning companions like Sarah, Romana, The Brigadier.
The next I saw was Resurrection of the Daleks and I did find there something poignant about her goodbye. In the context of those two it made sense for her to say it had been fun but no longer was.
When I watched more of her era, I sadly realized that the likable Tegan under Terrance Dicks was actually anomalous, and she'd always been the miserable complainer. I was taken aback by her hissy fit in The Visitation, made worse by how the Doctor seemed to become her punching bag. It's often said that she stood up to the Doctor but bizarrely there are stories where she lets his most irrational moments and decisions pass uncommented and just becomes the cliched deferring submissive dumb companion out the blue (the grieving scene in Time-Flight, the entirety of Warriors of the Deep).
The problem I think with Tegan is she was introduced in the last story of Season 18. In Logopolis it made sense for her to be as angry, demanding and hysterical as she was at being uprooted from her home. Unfortunately it seemed like the writers kept looking back to that characterization and treating it as her default, to the point it just got obnoxious and required Tegan to act with no self-awareness.
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Post by rapscallion on Jun 16, 2022 12:41:03 GMT
First story I saw her in was The Five Doctors, and for some years it was the only one of hers I'd seen. She seemed likable enough but definitely not as interesting or intriguing as the other returning companions like Sarah, Romana, The Brigadier. The next I saw was Resurrection of the Daleks and I did find there something poignant about her goodbye. In the context of those two it made sense for her to say it had been fun but no longer was. When I watched more of her era, I sadly realized that the likable Tegan under Terrance Dicks was actually anomalous, and she'd always been the miserable complainer. I was taken aback by her hissy fit in The Visitation, made worse by how the Doctor seemed to become her punching bag. It's often said that she stood up to the Doctor but bizarrely there are stories where she lets his most irrational moments and decisions pass uncommented and just becomes the cliched deferring submissive dumb companion out the blue (the grieving scene in Time-Flight, the entirety of Warriors of the Deep). The problem I think with Tegan is she was introduced in the last story of Season 18. In Logopolis it made sense for her to be as angry, demanding and hysterical as she was at being uprooted from her home. Unfortunately it seemed like the writers kept looking back to that characterization and treating it as her default, to the point it just got obnoxious and required Tegan to act with no self-awareness. I don't really get why you were 'taken aback by her hissy fit' in The Visitation. She was clearly desperate to return to Earth, even to the point that she hijacked the TARDIS in Four To Doomsday. After Nyssa collapsed she's then forced to spend time on Deva Loka where she's psychologically taken over. In The Visitation she's told that she's home, and is emotionally keyed up about finally returning to Earth, and then is sucker-punched by the fact that...whoops, they're over 300 years early. I think her letting off a certain amount of steam, which lets be fair amounted to little more than 3 rapid-fire sentences before she went outside, got some fresh air to cool down and actually apologised to him for her outburst in the first place, was actually more than reasonable. 'The Doctor's punching bag'?? And in order for Tegan's own storyline to not get repetitious, her position about trying to get home changes at the beginning of the very next story, so I don't see this as being her default at all. As for 'miserable complainer'....So she had a whinge about being cold in a castle in The King's Demons....and being trapped under floorboards in Terminus with Turlough's nose practically wedged up her backside for hours....and because she couldn't get a straight answer about her uncle's whereabouts from a bunch of dressed up villagers in The Awakening. All perfectly legit gripes in my book. Tegan's characteristics are just different. It was a way for the production team to be able to portray somebody different from the norm travelling with the Doctor, and I think it succeeded. So she's prickly at times, good for her.
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Post by sadako on Jun 16, 2022 18:50:00 GMT
I don't really get why you were 'taken aback by her hissy fit' in The Visitation. She was clearly desperate to return to Earth, even to the point that she hijacked the TARDIS in Four To Doomsday. After Nyssa collapsed she's then forced to spend time on Deva Loka where she's psychologically taken over. In The Visitation she's told that she's home, and is emotionally keyed up about finally returning to Earth, and then is sucker-punched by the fact that...whoops, they're over 300 years early. I think her letting off a certain amount of steam, which lets be fair amounted to little more than 3 rapid-fire sentences before she went outside, got some fresh air to cool down and actually apologised to him for her outburst in the first place, was actually more than reasonable. 'The Doctor's punching bag'?? And in order for Tegan's own storyline to not get repetitious, her position about trying to get home changes at the beginning of the very next story, so I don't see this as being her default at all. As for 'miserable complainer'....So she had a whinge about being cold in a castle in The King's Demons....and being trapped under floorboards in Terminus with Turlough's nose practically wedged up her backside for hours....and because she couldn't get a straight answer about her uncle's whereabouts from a bunch of dressed up villagers in The Awakening. All perfectly legit gripes in my book. Tegan's characteristics are just different. It was a way for the production team to be able to portray somebody different from the norm travelling with the Doctor, and I think it succeeded. So she's prickly at times, good for her. Well, the main reason I was taken aback by it, was because by now it was an old cliche that the Doctor has trouble piloting the Tardis, but it's also taken for granted that he can go anywhere in time and space. And though he might have landed on the wrong date, he could probably easily rectify that in a few minutes if she gave him a chance to. Having this old affectation of the Tardis to miss the spot sometimes to the point it was a comical familiarity suddenly treated as the source of a serious and heated clash was a bit jarring. I get that they were wanting to change course with the series from the comedy of the later Tom Baker era to the more serious drama stuff but I wasn't sure I felt this was the right grounds to do it on. When I say punching bag I mean in the sense that when you really tally it all up, her grievances in this should be directed chiefly at the Master, rather than the Doctor. He's the one who really uprooted her life, forced her and her friends to flee from Earth, and brought tragedy to her. So to my mind it *does* look like she's taking it out on the 'nice guy' in the equation who she knows won't really argue back. Sarah would argue back at the Doctor, as would Romana, but ultimately they had an understanding and rapport. They didn't veer into obnoxious about it. With Tegan it often felt one-way. Yes we can all complain and have our miserable moments, but in a dour season like Season 20, her remarks just add to a souring of the mood. I think that negative mood can play against being a plausible companion who has come to choose this kind of life with the Doctor. If they act like they don't want to be there, it can sap the energy and beg the question of why they're there, in terms of character function. And as I said, it plays against her final words of goodbye "it stopped being fun, Doctor" if you're scratching your head to remember when it ever was fun for her.
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Post by GC on Jun 25, 2022 17:11:36 GMT
I had this Titbits article. My Nan and Granddad used to get given all sorts of old magazines and newspapers, they used to save and stick them in a big pile in the kitchen shed - dunno what for, my Granddad did used to keep chickens, dunno if he used the old newspapers for the chicken coop shed things. Anyhow, when we visited them,I always used to dive into that dark old shed and raid that pile of newspapers and mags for any Who stuff for my scrapbook. God the excitement and joy when I found something worth saving. Under Doctor's Orders
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Post by Cyggy on Jul 4, 2022 14:40:41 GMT
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Post by Cyggy on Aug 17, 2022 17:53:42 GMT
Perhaps one shouldn't always listen to Peter Davison's requests.... could you just reach as high as you possibly can above your head?
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Post by iank on Aug 25, 2022 23:00:54 GMT
Not a fan. Irritating and gobby on and off screen.
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Post by GC on Aug 26, 2022 1:02:16 GMT
Janet and John there, in happier times...
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Post by GC on Sept 10, 2023 22:33:07 GMT
It was Janet's 70th birthday the other day.
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